Could you please explain the difference between the analysis and beta-group-significance. For example, I sampled from the same reactor at day0, day 7and day14. I do the beta-group-significance analysis for the matrix.qza, and should I must do the analysis “q2-longitudinal”? I can not understand their difference, because these two analysis can both do the pair-wise comparsion.
Great question! While these plugins both test differences in beta diversity, they make a different assumption about the groups they test.
So because your samples have a order (0,7,14 is not the same as something random like 14,0,7), you should use the q2-longitudinal plugin.
Does that help answer your question?
Thank you for your reply.
If I want to know which factor has the largest source of variation in the factors tested, should I still use
qiime diversity adonis?
Please check the attached metadata. If I want to test whether distances between samples of “high pressure”, are more similar to each other than they are to samples of “low pressure”, could you I use
qiime diversity beta-group-significance and
--m-metadata-column Pressure? Because I think the “Pressure” is not in chronological order, while the “Batch” is in chronological order.
metadata_withoutbg.txt (3.2 KB)
Thanks for telling me more!
Sounds like a good plan. I also use the
adonis test when I’m interested in questions like this.
adonis test does not care at all about order, when dealing with a factor. Text strings like
Low are interpreted as factors, while numbers are dealt with as continuous variables. Based on the metadata you provided, I think the adonis test would compare your
Date variable as a factor, which is a reasonable thing to do and would let you compare
1_14, but it might be more appropriate to treat date as a single continuous variable (
In some ways this comes down to the stats question of treating time as a discreet factor or continuous number. And that depends on how you want to frame your scientific question. As with a lot of stats, is no obvious right answer to this question and you get to choose how you frame this comparison. 🤷
Thank you for your clear answers!
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