# Reverse reads - quality plot question

**URL:** https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062
**Category:** User Support
**Created:** [May 7, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062 "2018-05-07T22:37:07Z")
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### Author: ![fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/fstudart/32/6430_2.png) [@fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/fstudart)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/1 "2018-05-07T22:37:07Z")

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Hi Everyone,

I'm analyzing a new dataset, and, after importing the data into Qiime2 I saw that the quality plot of my reverse reads drops to almost zero and, afterwards, increases.

I'm just wondering why this happened. When I denoise the data (using DADA2), should I trim the reverse reads necessarily up to 180 bp?

Thanks very much,  
FS

 ![Reverse%20reads](https://forum-qiime2-org.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/87989b790711427180b21636c194899ee2d5d9e8.JPG)

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### Author: ![colinbrislawn](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/colinbrislawn/32/6221_2.png) [@colinbrislawn](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/colinbrislawn)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/2 "2018-05-08T06:23:02Z")

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Hello Fernando,

Yes, trimming at 180 would probably be your best option. Your second best option would be to contact your sequencing center, report this as a failed run, and ask them to run it again. It's possible (hopefully!) that this is some sort of software error and your run is OK, but if I saw that graph, I would see if they could rerun those samples. 😥

Let's see what the dada2 folks recommend.

Colin

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### Author: ![ebolyen](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/ebolyen/32/11_2.png) [@ebolyen](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/ebolyen)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/3 "2018-05-08T15:22:54Z")

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I agree with @colinbrislawn, sorry about your data @fstudart ☹

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### Author: ![fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/fstudart/32/6430_2.png) [@fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/fstudart)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/4 "2018-05-08T18:00:04Z")

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Hi Dr. Colin,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm also including the forward plot for your analysis, and I did not see the same artifact with these reads. So, may I assume that this sequencing problem was limited to the reverse reads? Also, when I merge the reads and considering that to merge is only necessary a 20-bp overlap, by trimming the reverse reads up to 180 bp, would it be ok to proceed?

Thanks,  
Fernando Studart

 ![Forward%20reads](https://forum-qiime2-org.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/7/7f63580ce92629c6dcbd7b48893a796c964cde0d.JPG)

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### Author: ![fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/fstudart/32/6430_2.png) [@fstudart](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/fstudart)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/5 "2018-05-08T18:02:50Z")

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Hi Dr. Bolyen,

Thanks for your reply. I just included the forward plot as well. Do you think I can proceed analyzing this run, as I did not see the same artifact with the forward reads?

Thanks,  
FS

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### Author: ![colinbrislawn](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/colinbrislawn/32/6221_2.png) [@colinbrislawn](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/colinbrislawn)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/6 "2018-05-08T21:41:30Z")

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Hello again,

> [@fstudart](#):
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> So, may I assume that this sequencing problem was limited to the reverse reads?

Yes, that sounds right. And it's common for Illumina data to have issues with one direction.

> [@fstudart](#):
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> Also, when I merge the reads and considering that to merge is only necessary a 20-bp overlap, by trimming the reverse reads up to 180 bp, would it be ok to proceed?

Yes! This is why paired end reads are soon good! I think your analysis will not even be effected by this region.

Good luck!  
Colin

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### Author: ![system](https://forum-qiime2-org.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/1/21af5fe23cb6f4579467c66a9ed94e55274ca7bd.svg) [@system](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/reverse-reads-quality-plot-question/4062/7 "2018-06-09T03:41:34Z")

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