# Merging two different runs resulted in very different microbial popultion

**URL:** https://forum.qiime2.org/t/merging-two-different-runs-resulted-in-very-different-microbial-popultion/19364
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**Created:** [April 25, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/merging-two-different-runs-resulted-in-very-different-microbial-popultion/19364 "2021-04-25T14:44:20Z")
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### Author: ![ronnie](https://forum.qiime2.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@ronnie](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/ronnie)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/merging-two-different-runs-resulted-in-very-different-microbial-popultion/19364/1 "2021-04-25T14:44:20Z")

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Hi all,

I have run two different sequences, performed DADA2 separately and merged them together as described in qiime2 documentation (same DADA2 parameters ).  
I have got strange results- the microbial population between the two runs are very different. Samples that were sequenced together are tend to be much more similar compare to samples from the other run. It has no biological explanation, the origin of the samples is the same.  
What can be the problem ? can it be a technical issue?

Thanks a lot

Ronnie

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### Author: ![jwdebelius](https://forum.qiime2.org/user_avatar/forum.qiime2.org/jwdebelius/32/9655_2.png) [@jwdebelius](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/jwdebelius)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/merging-two-different-runs-resulted-in-very-different-microbial-popultion/19364/2 "2021-04-26T02:48:30Z")

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Hi @ronnie,

Welcome to the QIIME 2 forum!

This is a semi common problem, particularly for low biomass samples, with [this study](https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-014-0087-z) being kind of the worst case senario.

There are some option for handling this, which are discussed in this thread, but ultimately, it's a challenging problem.

> [@Discussion: methods for removing contaminants and cross-talk](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/discussion-methods-for-removing-contaminants-and-cross-talk/5626):
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> Just to add further to this discussion, I've previously used decontam prior to it being incorporated into QIIME 2, and whilst I'm a huge fan of the principles it's built around, it didn't work fantastically for my samples. I will caveat that as I did only attempt the prevalence method with 2 negative controls (one kit negative and one sequencing negative) for around 20 samples, which is likely too low a number of controls to have any real statistical power, I'm not sure what the ideal number of …

Best,  
Justine

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### Author: ![system](https://forum-qiime2-org.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/1/21af5fe23cb6f4579467c66a9ed94e55274ca7bd.svg) [@system](https://forum.qiime2.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.qiime2.org/t/merging-two-different-runs-resulted-in-very-different-microbial-popultion/19364/3 "2021-05-27T08:48:53Z")

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